Comments on: What the Heck Is Gesso? A Primer on Primers https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/ Get Inspired Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:01:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20286 Fri, 12 May 2017 23:17:35 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20286 I should have mentioned, the above method I use with acrylic paints.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20287 Fri, 12 May 2017 23:17:35 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20287 I should have mentioned, the above method I use with acrylic paints.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20277 Fri, 12 May 2017 23:14:51 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20277 Yes, I also wondered about the “gesso on canvas” description. The stuff is brittle and hard. I use it on wood panels, where I can sand it smooth for very fine detailed work. But it soaks up the first layer of paint like there was no tomorrow, so once it’s dry I mist it and do a first layer of thin paint, white or tinted, before I go on to do the actual painting.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20273 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:14:39 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20273 Only Jeff Webb’s comment is accurate here regarding traditional gesso. Putting it on canvas is asking for trouble as it really is brittle. The one thing I would adjust in his statement about traditional gesso being used for oil paint is not to apply medium or varnish to make it less absorbent for oil – once you’ve sanded it apply a couple of coats of Rabbit Skin Glue to seal the surface. Angaba mentioned her teacher using marble dust – yes, that’s fine, in fact it’s very normal to use. Don’t use French Chalk, however as it’s too light. Certainly in England, you’d normally use Whiting.

There is a chalk ground you can use for canvas, but, while related, it isn’t gesso. I can’t remember the recipe, but it does have linseed oil in it to give it some flexibility. Ralph Meyer’s book will have a reliable version.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20279 Mon, 13 Oct 2014 09:14:39 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20279 Only Jeff Webb’s comment is accurate here regarding traditional gesso. Putting it on canvas is asking for trouble as it really is brittle. The one thing I would adjust in his statement about traditional gesso being used for oil paint is not to apply medium or varnish to make it less absorbent for oil – once you’ve sanded it apply a couple of coats of Rabbit Skin Glue to seal the surface. Angaba mentioned her teacher using marble dust – yes, that’s fine, in fact it’s very normal to use. Don’t use French Chalk, however as it’s too light. Certainly in England, you’d normally use Whiting.

There is a chalk ground you can use for canvas, but, while related, it isn’t gesso. I can’t remember the recipe, but it does have linseed oil in it to give it some flexibility. Ralph Meyer’s book will have a reliable version.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20267 Sun, 12 Oct 2014 02:58:33 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20267 I appreciate this description of “gesso” but I must add that this isn’t entirely accurate. Gesso is an Italian word for “plaster” and the ground created for painting on was made from slaked plaster and an animal hide glue. It was NOT created for oil painting, but rather for tempera painting. One would never use traditional gesso on canvas because it is far too brittle and would very easily crack. It is meant for a more rigid support such as a wood panel. There is another formula for using a gesso-like substance on canvas and that is the half chalk ground which is a strange type of emulsion of a weaker glue based gesso with a drying oil. This method is till being used by some canvas manufacturers in Europe and was favored by many of the Renaissance Italian painters. Northern European Baroque painters preferred using a weaker hide glue or gelatin sizing on canvas and then a ground of white lead. Gesso is very absorbent and is uncomfortable for oil painting because it absorbs the oil from the paint. Before working on a gesso ground panel most artists need to rub it in with oil medium or varnish to make a more accepting surface. Acrylic Gesso is a very suitable surface for acrylic paint and although it is suggested by manufacturers that it is suitable for oil painting, most purists will disagree since acrylic resin is hydro porous and will not make for a satisfactory bind with oil paint. Acrylic gesso very often has the addition of marble dust as an additive to make it slightly denser. It is in fact just an acrylic paint primer that has no gypsum or plaster in it at all. Ther were two types of gesso used by the old masters, gesso grosso and gesso sottille. Gesso grosso was what was used to create textural and modeled surfaces in the old icons that were painted in tempera and gesso sottille was used for the smoother surfaces on which the general tempera painting was done.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20271 Sun, 12 Oct 2014 02:58:33 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20271 I appreciate this description of “gesso” but I must add that this isn’t entirely accurate. Gesso is an Italian word for “plaster” and the ground created for painting on was made from slaked plaster and an animal hide glue. It was NOT created for oil painting, but rather for tempera painting. One would never use traditional gesso on canvas because it is far too brittle and would very easily crack. It is meant for a more rigid support such as a wood panel. There is another formula for using a gesso-like substance on canvas and that is the half chalk ground which is a strange type of emulsion of a weaker glue based gesso with a drying oil. This method is till being used by some canvas manufacturers in Europe and was favored by many of the Renaissance Italian painters. Northern European Baroque painters preferred using a weaker hide glue or gelatin sizing on canvas and then a ground of white lead. Gesso is very absorbent and is uncomfortable for oil painting because it absorbs the oil from the paint. Before working on a gesso ground panel most artists need to rub it in with oil medium or varnish to make a more accepting surface. Acrylic Gesso is a very suitable surface for acrylic paint and although it is suggested by manufacturers that it is suitable for oil painting, most purists will disagree since acrylic resin is hydro porous and will not make for a satisfactory bind with oil paint. Acrylic gesso very often has the addition of marble dust as an additive to make it slightly denser. It is in fact just an acrylic paint primer that has no gypsum or plaster in it at all. Ther were two types of gesso used by the old masters, gesso grosso and gesso sottille. Gesso grosso was what was used to create textural and modeled surfaces in the old icons that were painted in tempera and gesso sottille was used for the smoother surfaces on which the general tempera painting was done.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20262 Sun, 09 Mar 2014 03:14:52 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20262 Great explanation.
I like to give a second coat of gesso because it gives me less “fabric weave” and better surface texture in the end product. .
I’m surprised that you say there is no glue in in acrylic gesso as I consider the polymer medium as just a special kind of glue (or binder) that holds the gesso and the pigment to the canvas or board that it is applied to.
Here’s a question – is acrylic gesso adequate for an under-painting layer for oil painting. I think it should be. Is there any need now for the traditional oil painting gesso (with rabbit skin glue) since the organic glue is susceptible to mould and mildew? I haven’t used the oil gesso recipe for years and subsequently have had no issues with my paintings in storage.
I like to add yellow ocher or burn sienna to the ready made acrylic gesso so that if I miss a spot while painting, it’s not a blaring white that shows through but a softer, warm mid-tone. It also saves a bit of time.
There are manufactured gessos in black and other earth tones. I sometimes paint the light toned gessos in the areas that will ultimately be light, but black gesso on the same ground, to give richness to the shadowed areas.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20258 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 17:10:44 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20258 Thanks for the tip on adding colour to the gesso for a toned surface.

I just wanted to add a tip for those of you using Masonite boards for painting. When you apply your gesso make sure you prime both sides of the board and the edges. This will prevent the board from warping and the edge painting will not allow moisture to penetrate the wood. Do several coats of gesso and sand in between each coat on the side your going to use if you want a smooth surface.

If your priming a stretched canvas you can also sand ( with fine sandpaper obviously ). If your stretched canvas is pre primed you can sand then add more gesso. I like to paint with a lot of fine detail so do not want the tooth of the canvas getting in my way.

Anne Armitage B.F.A.
Picture Pefect Pets

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20264 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 17:10:44 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20264 Thanks for the tip on adding colour to the gesso for a toned surface.

I just wanted to add a tip for those of you using Masonite boards for painting. When you apply your gesso make sure you prime both sides of the board and the edges. This will prevent the board from warping and the edge painting will not allow moisture to penetrate the wood. Do several coats of gesso and sand in between each coat on the side your going to use if you want a smooth surface.

If your priming a stretched canvas you can also sand ( with fine sandpaper obviously ). If your stretched canvas is pre primed you can sand then add more gesso. I like to paint with a lot of fine detail so do not want the tooth of the canvas getting in my way.

Anne Armitage B.F.A.
Picture Pefect Pets

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20254 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 14:46:01 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20254 Becoming a miniature oil painter, I could not bring myself to paint on what has become the traditional surface oil miniaturist paint on; “ivorine”. No way around it; it’s plastic and the artist in me rebelled at it. I kept hearing my techniques professor, “always paint on the most permanent surface!”. So I am using gesso on linen in multiple layers sanding between each on until I have the ultra smooth surface I need. I remember that from techniques class too.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20252 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:02:29 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20252 Actually, gesso makes the painting surface “less” absorbent. Working on raw board or canvas will absorb your paint like a sponge if it’s not first coated with a primer or gesso.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20250 Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:03:12 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20250 Thankyou for providing information on Gesso, its ingredients and how it works, but it’s pretty low embedding housepaint Ads when we think we are being taken to artists websites for further instruction.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20249 Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:03:27 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20249 One of my art teachers used a recipe for gesso that included marble dust. I don’t know if marble dust is a traditional type ingredient or if it was an innovation of my teacher. He used it for canvas and panels. Don’t know why.

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By: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/product-recommendation/what-the-heck-is-gesso/#comment-20251 Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:03:27 +0000 https://www.artistsnetwork.com/blogs/the-artists-life/what-the-heck-is-gesso#comment-20251 One of my art teachers used a recipe for gesso that included marble dust. I don’t know if marble dust is a traditional type ingredient or if it was an innovation of my teacher. He used it for canvas and panels. Don’t know why.

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